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jamjammer53150

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 09:44:19 am »
Is there even a list of the entrents , or some link so they could be collectivley looked at?

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 07:28:48 am »
A list is available for the judges, but there is no "public" list. This allows folks to enter the contest without worrying what they may be up against.  ;)
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 07:35:45 am »
Just thought it would be fun to see "And the entrys are " ( once the entry was closed )

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 02:14:29 pm »
Being a competition that promotes gunpla, i think all entries should be shown somehow and somewhere for the pleasure of all BAKUC north american members and the public. This is the only competition like this that we have here in North America to look forward to and it only happens once a year. To have the event behind closed doors denies all members of their pride of model making whether beginner, intermediate, or expert and it takes away from the public experience and public awareness. I mean people enter these not only to win but to feel like they entered into something where they can get just a little recognition for their work good or bad as well as appreciating other contestants works. People should know what they are up against. Who is to say that the winner will even be a kit that was entered but just a friend of the judges or something. Im not trying to pick a fight or say that that is what is going to happen but its just a little C&C ...so far we dont have knowledge of who entered, we dont have knowledge of what kits are entered, we dont know who is judging, public cant see, contestants cant see ... am i wrong here?
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 11:12:19 pm »
I do agree that a list needs to be shown. I mean, we have already entered already and can get a faint idea of who is entering and who is not, so it really doesn't matter who the persons in the contests see that they go against once the deadline is met. Showing the list would also encourage voting and to be honest, this site does not get a lot of traffic and there may be one to two votes on an entry. I mean, what good is 1-2 votes?


I hope you consider an alternative to how the contest is to be voted on. I hope I have displayed no distaste in your guy's moderating skills, site creation. I respect that.

Thanks.
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jamjammer53150

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2009, 05:06:41 am »
Yes after the list is closed , noharm showing , maybe it would encourage more people to enter when they see whats in there

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2009, 09:21:33 am »
Being a competition that promotes gunpla, i think all entries should be shown somehow and somewhere for the pleasure of all BAKUC north american members and the public. This is the only competition like this that we have here in North America to look forward to and it only happens once a year.
I appreciate--and applaud--your enthusiasm for this contest. It is true that the BAKUC is a unique event in its focus. However, there are many contests throughout North America for modelers, and I would encourage each and every one of you to look into those in addition to the BAKUC--and not in lieu of it. Taking part in a real-world model contest will definitely help you improve your skills, and certain enlighten you to the larger world of scale modeling out there.

To have the event behind closed doors denies all members of their pride of model making whether beginner, intermediate, or expert and it takes away from the public experience and public awareness. I mean people enter these not only to win but to feel like they entered into something where they can get just a little recognition for their work good or bad as well as appreciating other contestants works. People should know what they are up against.
Honestly, what purpose would that ultimately serve? Anything in the Gallery from a North American user is fair game. Look for the best models in the Gallery, and assume you're up against those.

Who is to say that the winner will even be a kit that was entered but just a friend of the judges or something.
Nice. Subtle. And, as a representative of the North American BAKUC Semi-Final, I take great offense at that. Well done.
 

Im not trying to pick a fight or say that that is what is going to happen but its just a little C&C ...so far we dont have knowledge of who entered, we dont have knowledge of what kits are entered, we dont know who is judging, public cant see, contestants cant see ... am i wrong here?
Just to be clear, anything in the Gallery--from a North American registrant can be entered. With that in mind, there's a ton of entries in the contest that are from folks in Asia. While I appreciate their contributions to the BAKUC Gallery, they are not eligible for the North American BAKUC Semi-Final. And, again, assume anything in the Gallery (from North America) is fair game.

With ALL THAT being said, you folks obviously want to see a list of the actual BAKUC entrants. We'll talk it over and see what we can come up with.
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2009, 10:14:48 am »
Wow... just wow. First off, that's a lot of grief from someone that didn't even enter this contest.

Okay, here's the rub. The winner and runner up have been chosen and have been for a few days now. If the winner cannot go to HK then the prize goes to the next runner up. The winner has been contacted and I am awaiting his response to a PM I sent to him. If I do not hear back from the winner in the next day or so, then the next runner up wins the grand prize. We must act quickly at this point because the sponsor needs to make travel arrangements for the winner to go to Hong Kong over the Christmas holiday. Yeah, the winner would not be in NA for Christmas, so that makes getting a winner willing to go at that time difficult. IF the runners up cannot go then no one will represent NA in the BAKUC finals. So as you can imagine, there's not a whole lot of time to get someone to go to HK.

Even though there were 39 entries, let's be frank, not all of them are BAKUC international final material. Some are just snapped together and have had their panel lines filled in. Would YOU send that to compete in an world class competition? I didn't think so.

Believe me guys, the contest is not in any way shape or form rigged. The best model wins plain and simple regardless of who the entrant is. I do not know this years main winner aside from seeing him post on a few forums. Hopefully he replies soon so that he can go.

As for posting a list of entrants, that's probably not going to happen this year. The system is not set up to display that and I'm not sure about what the programmers schedule is like. If you're desperate to show off what you entered I'll make a thread and you can show your entry there.
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 11:29:34 am »
Was the Astray contest also decided?

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2009, 11:51:16 am »
@zerobxu- Thank you for addressing the concerns. That is greatly appreciated and so is your work in maintaining this site like Dementard also stated. Also, if I offended you in any way I do apologize sincerely it was not ment to accuse. Please forgive me.

@ Ficthenfoo- Thank you for taking the time in addressing the concerns it was very fair. I do agree that we need a good kit to compete with Asia. We cant let them think us Americans/NA cant model... Also, hopefully as the years go by, the event will get better and better. There is so much potential and their are prolly 2x as many good modellers here in the US than there is in Asia (sorry international modellers, just creating some competition). Its just not recognized enough here for them to see that its worth it to enter.

Let me know if there is anything i can do to help you guys out.

*edit* if the guy/girl is on hobbyfanatics perhaps I know of him/her and can help track him down.

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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 12:53:04 pm »
*edit* if the guy/girl is on hobbyfanatics perhaps I know of him/her and can help track him down.

We appreciate the offer, but we're in contact with the potential grand prize winners now (I think  :-\ )
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 12:53:42 pm »
Was the Astray contest also decided?

 :) Not yet.
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2009, 03:04:03 pm »
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2009, 03:33:13 pm »
Could be worse...

http://dc23-mecharts.blogspot.com/2009/11/was-real-bakuc-there.html


Wow...

You thought that was unfair too?


Anyways, thanks for addressing our concern, I know how busy programmers can get, appreciate the service.
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Re: bakuk 09
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2009, 01:54:22 pm »
Yeah DC23 does thinks it should be the other way around and in a regular modelling comp he is right IMO....but on the other hand the main unit is a GP04 which bandai does not sell and since it is BAKUC, it wouldnt make sense for a non bandai kit to win number 1.

Any news on the winner and his work? I want to see how our number 1 this year compares to the other countries.
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