Transformers 2 - Now with *SPOILERS*

[rx-slinger]

I was wondering who has seen the movie and what they think of it. I saw the midnight showing I thought it was pretty good but not as good as the original series.

MOD EDIT: This thread now has some spoilers for the movie in it. If you have not seen the movie and do not wish to know several events of the film, please look away!  

[Paul Lopez]

The movie was pure awesomeness.

I would have preferred that the dog humping and robot humping had been left out, but overall I really enjoyed it. I found it to be a very good sequel.

There are elements that are lacking from the first movie, but it also makes up for what was missing in the first movie. For example: Megatron giving Starscream his traditional beatdown. Minor spoiler, I know, but I found it important that they brought that element of G1 back in the movie. I really wanted it in the first so the fact that it's in the sequel makes me happy.

Devastator was all kinds of awesome.

Jetfire is an interesting character. He's kind of a grouchy old man, but he's way cool. He's also a Scottsman.

If you liked the first movie, you're going to like this one.

[Kev-Kev]

This was completly awesome that robot girl gettin ready to probe Sam was wrong.(To think his first time doin it was going to be with a transformerDISGUSTING!!!)

But It really brings out the cruelness of the transfomers. It shows that the autobots are still artificial intelligence machines and that they still can have a sense a personality. Optimus Prime was just devastating this movie. He was annilating any decepticon in his way.

This is the best transformers movie there is!!!!

[ragn0r0x]

It was a great sequel and it brought back a lot of memories of the cartoon I use to watch when I was kid. I think it hada good balance of showing the transformers and the humans. 

It would of been nice if devastator said "DEVASTATOR" when he formed up. I laughed that jetfire had an accent to him. I thought soundwave could of done more in the movie he was one of my favorites. I could see a lot of transformers movies coming out cause there is a lot they can do.

[Paul Lopez]

I will say that I wished there was more dialogues amongst the Autobots. Thw twins were cool and all, but Sideswipe and Jolt were pure awesome. Same goes for the Arcee team. The bokes were supposed to combine, but they didn't in the movie. The toys still have the feature though

Poor Jolt got no lines whatsoever.

[zerobxu]

I'll be the dissenting voice... I didn't like it as much as the first movie. There. I said it. 

While it was a good movie, it lacked that sense of awe that the first movie had. And it wasn't just because it was more of the same, except bigger and badder. For one, the robot fights were a lot harder to follow. In the first movie, you could always tell exactly what was going on, who hit who--and with what. In the sequel, you just saw metal jumping around metal, unsure who just hit who and where. In short, the fights were a lot blurrier and harder to track.

I'd recommend this movie to fans, but anyone who isn't a fan needs to watch the first movie--if they haven't already. This film didn't exceed any of my expectations, but it certainly met them. And Devastator was cool as all heck. 

What was really weird was seeing TF2 in the afternoon, and playing Half-Life 2, Episode 2 in the evening. In the first instance, I've got Tony Todd as the voice of the uber-bad guy: The Fallen. In the second, there he is again as the vortigaunt, happily sending antlions to their graves as my on-screen ally.

[Kev-Kev]

Awe c'mon man, its was awesome!! The transformers were not hard to track their movements. Its very easy to see whats going on if you pay attention to the base colors of the autobots and decepticons.

Optimus and Jetfire combined= Kick Decpticon TAIL !!!

[zerobxu]

Oh... That's it. I must not have been paying attention. 

... Especially there at the big battle at the end* when I'm trying to figure out if the silver robot that just (1) fired a weapon (2) was shot (3) was pummeled could be identified as either that Autobot Corvette, some nameless Decepticon soldier, or Megatron.

Again, it was a good movie. Just not a great movie.

*trying to keep the thread spoiler-free

[Doctor Seleski]

Zero, you've summed it up well... as usual we see eye-to-eye.  I agree with all of your points.  The fights were a mish-mash of metal confusion, it wasn't as good as the first, and fans will definitely enjoy this more than your average moviegoer.

Before reading any reviews from moviegoers or critics I had no real expectations for this movie. After reading several comments and seeing the rotten status on RT, I thought it was going to be awful. Fortunately it is a good movie. Not sure who is giving it such awful reviews or what they expected from a movie based on '80s toys, but it was definitely entertaining. I saw it in IMAX, so it was even more overwhelming, but it was still fun and worth the time and money.

I'd still take the first movie over this one though.  Makes me really glad I was able to buy the HD version this weekend for $1.   

[George Caswell]

Not too happy with the 2007 film, not too eager to see its sequel.  I'd take the 1986 film, with all its flaws - Judd Nelson's terrible performance, the awful music cues, Orson Welles' feeble wheezing, "Ba weep gra na weep ninny-bom", frikkin' Daniel, etc. over the remarkably well-engineered but shockingly incoherent "Baysplosions!" any time.

'Course it's not an either-or arrangment, one could enjoy both - that's just a point of comparison.

This sort of thing drives me crazy - they put all kinds of thought and effort into the design of the remake but they let the storytelling fail at the most basic levels.  They did the same thing with "Star Trek"...

I'd be thrilled if they made a third one and cut out some of the annoying crap, and took the time to make sure the storytelling was up to snuff...  I complain about character design and such but despite the drawbacks inherent in their approach, the results are cool in many cases...  If they just put that together with a story that didn't make me want to face-palm every five minutes, and characters that didn't invoke my "Jar-Jar" gag reflex, we'd all go home happy.

[rx-slinger]

I would have liked have seen Scrapper say (constructicons unite form devaststor) like in the cartoon. It bugs me that there were seven constructicons in stead of six and that two of them were renamed. Also why did they just rename megatron, he should have been galvatron sinc he was rebuilt. I think it would have been funny if the song the touch by Stan bush was used when optimus combine with jetfire to fight the fallen.     

This was completly awesome that robot girl gettin ready to probe Sam was wrong.(To think his first time doin it was going to be with a transformerDISGUSTING!!!)

There are references of Sam and Michcaela one is after Sams mom ate the hash brownie and she told the girls she was in the house when his cherry was popped. On a separtnote it is funny something like that happens to afriends mom. I like the new wheelie because he does not ryhme words like the original wheelie did. This is just a few of my thoughts on the movie.

[George Caswell]

I like the new wheelie because he does not ryhme words like the original wheelie did.

Yeah, the old Wheelie was pretty annoying - he and Daniel are apparently the two most hated characters of season 3.  XD

In the Japanese "Headmasters" show he was much less annoying.  He talked normally and mostly just hung out with Daniel and goaded him into doing stupid things...

Though in terms of Wheelie's role in the original movie I think it was a bit more reasonable...  It's one thing to have a mysterious character show up and talk in rhymes and riddles for a few minutes - it's another thing entirely to have a character like that be a regular part of an episodic TV series. 

[Paul Lopez]

Just so everyone knows, there weren't 6 or seven Constructicons that united to form Devastator. He was hiw own entity that incoporated vehicles into his transformation. You can see this in the desert batte.

Here's a list of everyone who was fighting at the same time when Devastator was fighting the twins:

*Mixmaster
*Longhaul
*Rampage
*Hightower

Also, Scavenger was destroyed early, but a vehicle similar to him was used to make Devastator.

Devastator was unique because he didn't depend on other robots to merge into him. He was designed to be able to incorporate anything that was readily available and could suit his needs. What was once a major complaint for the toy is now not that much of an issue.

There's talk of TF3 having the Dinobots and Unicron. They can do whatever they want, but if the Dinotbots combine, I'll be unhappy. The Dinobots are all kinds of awesome without combining.

[Kev-Kev]

Are you seroius people? Can you not tell Optimus being killed, Optimus combining with jetfire and pwn'n Megatron.

Sheesh am I the only one who saw everyone clearly? Optimus blew Megatron clear threw a wall with jetfire's parts attached to him, broke Megatron's arm and make him shoot himself, shot and stabbed the Decepticon Leader "The Fallen".

COOLNESSS

[zerobxu]

So much for a spoiler-free thread. Thanks, guys! 

Are you seroius people? Can you not tell Optimus being killed, Optimus combining with jetfire and pwn'n Megatron.

Calm down. No one ever cited those specific examples--but thanks for spoiling several key elements of the movie for those folks that haven't seen it.

Sheesh am I the only one who saw everyone clearly? Optimus blew Megatron clear threw a wall with jetfire's parts attached to him, broke Megatron's arm and make him shoot himself, shot and stabbed the Decepticon Leader "The Fallen".

Fortunately, Optimus was the easiest to differentiate on screen from everyone else due to his unique colors. I can't even say that about Bumblebee, due to the presence of at least one other yellow Transformer (a reviewer on a Tranformers fan site even made that remark). No, what I'm talking about is that at least four different 'bots (not counting Ravage and the scorpion) were primarily silver--along with however many Decepticon soldiers there at the end. And when they all start shooting, punching, swinging bladed weapons, and whirling around each other like stainless steel tornados it can become a little hard to tell who did what to whom. This isn't just "one man's crazy opinion". It's a concensus held by both fans and critics.

If--through your superior adolescent perceptions--you were able to track everything going on at the screen at all times, then more power to you. Congratulations. We're all merely voicing our thoughts and opinions on the movie. You don't have to agree with them, but you are expected to respect them.

Again... Calm down. This was a "summer blockbuster" and we're not complaining. It was 2.5 hours of mindless fun. Nothing less, nothing more.