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pinoyako51

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My first question.
« on: July 18, 2010, 06:55:44 am »
Well, I'm going to build a gundam, and I'm going to mod it and weather it, so it could look battle damaged. My question is, when should I start cutting it, and modding it? Before I paint it or after??

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 08:44:48 am »
I would do it before because once u cut it and do stuff to it to make it look beat up that paint might chip or come off then u have to paint it again. So do it before u paint, then paint it and do the weathering.

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 09:14:55 am »
I would do it before because once u cut it and do stuff to it to make it look beat up that paint might chip or come off then u have to paint it again. So do it before u paint, then paint it and do the weathering.
Alright, thanks, this may take me a while then because I have to paint each piece seperately now..

One more question, I want to make my gundam battle damaged, before i Paint it.. how do I do so?? And what tools do I need?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 01:41:38 pm by pinoyako51 »

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 03:20:53 pm »
well I'm not really an expert on battle damage, but i would use a lighter and burn the parts in different areas not a lot. Don't go crazy with the firer then i will look bad. But thats what i would try. Sorry I really cant help u there.

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 10:35:23 pm »
mhm... Well, I''l do some research, first and see what I can get off from there. Thanks for the idea though  ;D

Another question.. what is the best the best technique for weathering?? I've been thinking about weathering markers but I'm a little iffy about that...
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 10:47:02 pm by pinoyako51 »

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 04:14:56 am »
Kabayan, it depends.... your goin to se airbrush? weather pastel is also great - ive use it on my kyrios...
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Re: My first question.
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 10:01:40 am »
Kabayan, it depends.... your goin to se airbrush? weather pastel is also great - ive use it on my kyrios...
I don't have an AB (pretty expensive on my budget  :P) so pastels are better than markers?

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 10:15:29 pm »
Just try using markers by using dry brush technique....  ;)
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Re: My first question.
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 11:28:18 pm »
Just try using markers by using dry brush technique....  ;)
alright, I'll see if it works out..

Another question!! When should I paint? when the internal and the external are separate or put together?

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 06:36:03 am »
i always go in the hardway kabayan... make sure everything was fixed and assemble (Airbrush Painting have done)... then do the weathering... the you simply use clear coat to protect your weathering.

go this website.... http://gamerabaenre.com/ - you can see some tips and tutorial in video which helps you.... other moderator here like my idol mr. fichtenfoo - he got also a website... which helps you also visualize some style and technique... his website - http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-gallery/
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Re: My first question.
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 10:21:36 am »
i always go in the hardway kabayan... make sure everything was fixed and assemble (Airbrush Painting have done)... then do the weathering... the you simply use clear coat to protect your weathering.

go this website.... http://gamerabaenre.com/ - you can see some tips and tutorial in video which helps you.... other moderator here like my idol mr. fichtenfoo - he got also a website... which helps you also visualize some style and technique... his website - http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-gallery/
Ah, I've seen fichtenfoo's website before.. Alright I see, I'm sorry but I got loads of questions.. so heres another

Lets say I want to paint an internal part of my gundam, and that internal part, shows up on the outside too.. how am I suppose to paint it? Also if I join two external pieces with modeling cement over that external part, and paint it, how do I do so?

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 08:21:40 pm »
you can check out donco's website. He has some awesome tutorials. His account is on this site.
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Re: My first question.
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 11:14:02 pm »
i always go in the hardway kabayan... make sure everything was fixed and assemble (Airbrush Painting have done)... then do the weathering... the you simply use clear coat to protect your weathering.

go this website.... http://gamerabaenre.com/ - you can see some tips and tutorial in video which helps you.... other moderator here like my idol mr. fichtenfoo - he got also a website... which helps you also visualize some style and technique... his website - http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-gallery/
Ah, I've seen fichtenfoo's website before.. Alright I see, I'm sorry but I got loads of questions.. so heres another

Lets say I want to paint an internal part of my gundam, and that internal part, shows up on the outside too.. how am I suppose to paint it? Also if I join two external pieces with modeling cement over that external part, and paint it, how do I do so?

Hmmm... some internal parts yes need to paint - thats why you need to study the parts in details. What i always do is seperate all the parts on a jar or plastic case - head, torso, arms, legs....etc, then see it how if all body parts need to paint or not. internal frames always have seperate parts - but of course while do combining - internal parts cannot be seen - so - save time.
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Re: My first question.
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2010, 10:31:10 am »
i always go in the hardway kabayan... make sure everything was fixed and assemble (Airbrush Painting have done)... then do the weathering... the you simply use clear coat to protect your weathering.

go this website.... http://gamerabaenre.com/ - you can see some tips and tutorial in video which helps you.... other moderator here like my idol mr. fichtenfoo - he got also a website... which helps you also visualize some style and technique... his website - http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-gallery/
Ah, I've seen fichtenfoo's website before.. Alright I see, I'm sorry but I got loads of questions.. so heres another

Lets say I want to paint an internal part of my gundam, and that internal part, shows up on the outside too.. how am I suppose to paint it? Also if I join two external pieces with modeling cement over that external part, and paint it, how do I do so?

Hmmm... some internal parts yes need to paint - thats why you need to study the parts in details. What i always do is seperate all the parts on a jar or plastic case - head, torso, arms, legs....etc, then see it how if all body parts need to paint or not. internal frames always have seperate parts - but of course while do combining - internal parts cannot be seen - so - save time.
haha to make things easier I'm modeling an exia, so there are quite a good amount of internal parts being seen.

@crimson biscuit oh yeah I've checked his website, pretty helpful, still though I have a lot of questions in my head that needs to be answered  :-[

P.S. haha, I've seen so many people making Exia's these days.. Feels like I'm following a trend here... lol
« Last Edit: July 21, 2010, 08:58:10 pm by pinoyako51 »

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Re: My first question.
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2010, 01:31:15 pm »
Now in reading this and others leads me to conclude as I did on my sandrock. That being the first one I've done to have damage really. I've done the paint chips n wear on basicly stock suits. Now as I've learned there is some damage you want to do before you paint and some you will Wang to do after the painting. I learned to figure first the damage you want implement,  projectile, energy, or physical. Physical = dents, scratchs, grooves, nicks. Energy = heat, melt, searing. Projectile = blast, explosion, bullets. Ive researched the subject as well and find that truly the damage proccess is throughout the entire build. Physical, as you assemble to snapfit, use x-acto knife and trim down random corners maybe cut into it in a couple spots. I even go step farther and dremel some dents in flat areas, these are injuries that often don't lead to paint scarring so they are ok to paint over (can touch up with silver later). At this time I also mark out were I'm placing other damages (with marker or drilling holes for prjectiles.) at this point you are all snapfit (assembled) I do the projectile damage as well before I paint so that I don't cause extra damage to the paint(ing). This damage is blasted usually so I'll drill small hole sometimes all the way through and sometimes not, the come in with knife and cut shards I call it sharding but you cut or break like broken glass effect, picture how metal breaks from an explosives or sharp piercing blast damage. (I may not be dascribing to well). Energy damage I do with an old soldering iron or wood burner (take care in not to breath the exaust of this method though -toxic-)by either poking holes or making slices with it. This damage I did after painting yet before weathering and after decals, this reasoning is because markings and signs are not discriminated by a heat saber or energy weapon, bullets, etc. Later you come in with metal coloring to you're Bullet holes, blastings, slices, etc. Then do some dry brushing for the edges, corners, etc. I could explain in all more detail if you like. I mainly built ootb main the longest time but now for past few years have gotten to were I can actualy customize them so it's been a learning trial for me too.  Hope I helped a little. But check the web if you haven't already. Fitchenfoo and DC23 are a couple of good sources for many building subjects.
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